Bromley & Downham Youth Club

I had a great night last night at the Bromley & Downham Youth Club.

Opened in the 1920s it sits right on the borough boundary of Bromley and Lewisham and looks after the kids from Downham. They have a children’s day care centre during the day and football, boxing, pool, Wii etc in the evenings.

The club provides another example of what passionate people can achieve with very limited resources, the boxing equipment and ring has to be built ever night and then disassembled after the training in preparation for the day care the next morning.

Despite this they have produce a number of really talented young boxers and provided support, activities and advice to a whole host of children who would never step inside a boxing ring.

The photos were taken by Mark Morris, who was a local councillor in Downham but now works at City Hall. What do you think, champion heavyweight in the making?

18 responses to “Bromley & Downham Youth Club

  1. It is such a shame that young boys are being encouraged to box rather than achieve academic success or take part in less violent sports.

    In my experience it is the boys that took boxing and judo who were the worst bullies in schools. I do not accept the arguement that boxing teaches them self-control. When you have Mike Tyson as a role model, self-control has nothing to do with it.

  2. It is such a shame that young boys are being encouraged to box rather than achieve academic success or take part in less violent sports.

    In my experience it is the boys that took boxing and judo who were the worst bullies in schools. I do not accept the arguement that boxing teaches them self-control. When you have Mike Tyson as a role model, self-control has nothing to do with it.

  3. Sorry Jimmy, you are just plain wrong.

    If you box without self control you lose, and get a painful drubbing in the process.

    Overall, boxing clubs have been giving young people a disciplined outlet for aggression and boredom for years and with great success.

    Would you rather they were playing Grand Theft Auto on the Xbox for days at a time?

  4. Sorry Jimmy, you are just plain wrong.

    If you box without self control you lose, and get a painful drubbing in the process.

    Overall, boxing clubs have been giving young people a disciplined outlet for aggression and boredom for years and with great success.

    Would you rather they were playing Grand Theft Auto on the Xbox for days at a time?

  5. I would like to see evidence that boxing prevents more violence than it creates. In my experience it is boxers who turn into the biggest bullies and thugs. Look at Nick Griffin if you want to see what happens when somebody takes up boxing, not to mention the real cases of brain damage resulting from boxing.

    It is possible that I am mistaken, but I would like to see some real evidence that boxing is good for society that is not funded by the Boxing industry. Anybody know if such research has taken place?

  6. I would like to see evidence that boxing prevents more violence than it creates. In my experience it is boxers who turn into the biggest bullies and thugs. Look at Nick Griffin if you want to see what happens when somebody takes up boxing, not to mention the real cases of brain damage resulting from boxing.

    It is possible that I am mistaken, but I would like to see some real evidence that boxing is good for society that is not funded by the Boxing industry. Anybody know if such research has taken place?

  7. Firstly James – no! Not a champion heavyweight in the making. Your left's way too low, leaving your chin exposed – although your chin is nicely tucked in, so there's hope yet!

    And now on to Jimmy's drivel. Never have I heard such utter tosh. When you look at the tedious arguments of the anti-boxing brigade you will see that boxing is held to a different standard than other sports – and when it comes to the facts their argument well and truly flounders, as the dangers of boxing have less impact and happen more infrequently than in nearly any other more ‘popular’ sport.

    If we are going to really make a difference in the future we have to work with and develop our young people to become responsible adults. Young people that get into trouble tend to lack self control, self discipline, they have low self esteem, and a poor attitude. Boxing aims to impact on all these things, and improve health and fitness as well.

    National newspapers are always commenting on how obese and unfit the population will be in 20 years time – that certainly won’t apply to the young people who partake of the king of sports!

  8. Firstly James – no! Not a champion heavyweight in the making. Your left's way too low, leaving your chin exposed – although your chin is nicely tucked in, so there's hope yet!

    And now on to Jimmy's drivel. Never have I heard such utter tosh. When you look at the tedious arguments of the anti-boxing brigade you will see that boxing is held to a different standard than other sports – and when it comes to the facts their argument well and truly flounders, as the dangers of boxing have less impact and happen more infrequently than in nearly any other more ‘popular’ sport.

    If we are going to really make a difference in the future we have to work with and develop our young people to become responsible adults. Young people that get into trouble tend to lack self control, self discipline, they have low self esteem, and a poor attitude. Boxing aims to impact on all these things, and improve health and fitness as well.

    National newspapers are always commenting on how obese and unfit the population will be in 20 years time – that certainly won’t apply to the young people who partake of the king of sports!

  9. A few recent attacks by amateur boxers on untrained members of the public, reported by:
    The Times
    Stourbridge News
    Get Reading
    Moortown today
    Lancashire Telegraph
    Wiltshire Times

    These are just the cases where charges were brought and resulted in a jail term. In most cases, especially in schools, the police never get involved. Not all, but too many, trained boxers end up as better trained thugs.

    What is wrong with building self-confidence, self-control, and self-belief through other sports, preferably team sports? The money spent on these schemes should be going into facilities for artificial rock-climbing, playing fields for football, rubgy, baseball, as well as canoeing and sailing in the docks and lakes around London.

    Unfortunately there are too many schemes that are trying to convince us that boxing is the only way to solve the problems of violence. It is not, usually it adds to the problem. I don't believe that boxing causes injuries to participants any worse than other sports, it is other members of the public, and particularly their classmates, that I fear for.

  10. A few recent attacks by amateur boxers on untrained members of the public, reported by:
    The Times
    Stourbridge News
    Get Reading
    Moortown today
    Lancashire Telegraph
    Wiltshire Times

    These are just the cases where charges were brought and resulted in a jail term. In most cases, especially in schools, the police never get involved. Not all, but too many, trained boxers end up as better trained thugs.

    What is wrong with building self-confidence, self-control, and self-belief through other sports, preferably team sports? The money spent on these schemes should be going into facilities for artificial rock-climbing, playing fields for football, rubgy, baseball, as well as canoeing and sailing in the docks and lakes around London.

    Unfortunately there are too many schemes that are trying to convince us that boxing is the only way to solve the problems of violence. It is not, usually it adds to the problem. I don't believe that boxing causes injuries to participants any worse than other sports, it is other members of the public, and particularly their classmates, that I fear for.

  11. As I said in my previous post, boxing is held to a different standard than other sports – and that's exactly what you've done here, Jimmy. What about all of the louts who play football and rugby? They are involved in serious violence, sexual assaults and all other types of criminality.

  12. As I said in my previous post, boxing is held to a different standard than other sports – and that's exactly what you've done here, Jimmy. What about all of the louts who play football and rugby? They are involved in serious violence, sexual assaults and all other types of criminality.

  13. Teaching somebody to play football does not enable them to inflict serious injury on members of the public. I am sure knife-fighting when properly organised, demands a lot of self control and discipline, but I do not want young people taught how to best use knives in a street fight, nor do I want them to be able to know how best to use their fists to inflict injuries on anybody on the street.

    It is noticable that girls are taught 'self-defence', boys are taught boxing. It is time that society grew up and realised that violence is not the solution to all problems.

  14. Teaching somebody to play football does not enable them to inflict serious injury on members of the public. I am sure knife-fighting when properly organised, demands a lot of self control and discipline, but I do not want young people taught how to best use knives in a street fight, nor do I want them to be able to know how best to use their fists to inflict injuries on anybody on the street.

    It is noticable that girls are taught 'self-defence', boys are taught boxing. It is time that society grew up and realised that violence is not the solution to all problems.

  15. Rubbish. Your kind of liberal thinking is the reason for the explosion of serious violence in this country over the last 17 years.

  16. Rubbish. Your kind of liberal thinking is the reason for the explosion of serious violence in this country over the last 17 years.

  17. Boxing is a great sport, that teaches discipline and keeps people off the street. I was at the club training that night and I think James will agree all the boys were well behaved and were having a good time.

    No ones trying to convince you that boxing is the only way, but it can help. You have shown some isolated incidents, there are idiots in all walks of life and you can't say boxing's bad because of this. I suggest you come to a boxing club yourself and find out for yourself. Maybe you will learn a thing or two.

    Cam

  18. Boxing is a great sport, that teaches discipline and keeps people off the street. I was at the club training that night and I think James will agree all the boys were well behaved and were having a good time.

    No ones trying to convince you that boxing is the only way, but it can help. You have shown some isolated incidents, there are idiots in all walks of life and you can't say boxing's bad because of this. I suggest you come to a boxing club yourself and find out for yourself. Maybe you will learn a thing or two.

    Cam

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