Is Blair a bit of a joke in the USA?

The damning report in the Times makes for great ammunition if you want to knock Tony Blair. But be careful.

There are many people who feel that the government has got too close to the USA and that our PM is more of a lapdog to President Bush that the head of government here in the UK. While I have some sympathy with this point of view it is very simplistic and omits the simple fact that the USA is our single biggest ally and has been for decades. David Cameron made this point well when he said that we should be close enough friends with the States to be able to talk frankly with each other.

There may be a number of people in the Washington elite who think that our support for the USA means nothing but talk to real Americans and the view is very, very different. The British are loved in the US because at the time when they felt truly threatened by an enemy they did not understand and could not see, we stood at their side.

Presidents and administrations come and go but the national psyche of the USA has been deeply influenced by the actions of the British government and armed forces. If you look at American sites to the “Fallen Heroes” of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan you will see that the British casualties are given at least as much deference there as they are at home (perhaps even more!).

Should we have a “blank cheque” policy towards the USA? Of course not, but we should think very carefully about looking for oportunities to undermine the relationship between ourselves and the States.

12 responses to “Is Blair a bit of a joke in the USA?

  1. What’s the capbadge from James?

    Shamefully, we have used our relationship with the US to cut back on our own internal invetment especially when it comes to (you guessed it) national defence. Unlike almost every other european country, we have
    1. No JSTARs facilities
    2. No medium or long range air defence (except for eurofighter & that’s not in service yet)
    3. Little organic satalite communications bandwidth (so little as to make it impossible to send powerpoint updates between HQ’s in Iraq)
    etc etc

    The various chancelors since the mid 80’s have cut our equipment & capability based on the facts that the yanks have it. Well remeber the Falklands? They did’nt stand by us much then did they?? A few AIM 9L’s was helfull, but they coulf have done much more!
    we need to realise that they will not always be so close to us, and budget acordingly.

  2. What’s the capbadge from James?

    Shamefully, we have used our relationship with the US to cut back on our own internal invetment especially when it comes to (you guessed it) national defence. Unlike almost every other european country, we have
    1. No JSTARs facilities
    2. No medium or long range air defence (except for eurofighter & that’s not in service yet)
    3. Little organic satalite communications bandwidth (so little as to make it impossible to send powerpoint updates between HQ’s in Iraq)
    etc etc

    The various chancelors since the mid 80’s have cut our equipment & capability based on the facts that the yanks have it. Well remeber the Falklands? They did’nt stand by us much then did they?? A few AIM 9L’s was helfull, but they coulf have done much more!
    we need to realise that they will not always be so close to us, and budget acordingly.

  3. What’s all the fuss about? Don’t we have the new EuroArmy to rescue us? And aren’t we told that the EU has kept peace in Europe for the last 50 years? Since there are seismic shifts occurring in the balance of power relationships in this part of the world, it seems to me that any notion of `special relationship’ with America will forever be fraught with suspicion that US military know-how will be passed on to the French. We cannot have it both ways if we are to be taken seriously by the Americans.

  4. What’s all the fuss about? Don’t we have the new EuroArmy to rescue us? And aren’t we told that the EU has kept peace in Europe for the last 50 years? Since there are seismic shifts occurring in the balance of power relationships in this part of the world, it seems to me that any notion of `special relationship’ with America will forever be fraught with suspicion that US military know-how will be passed on to the French. We cannot have it both ways if we are to be taken seriously by the Americans.

  5. How much will UKIP raise the MOD budget so we have a “standalone” force capable of protecting (without help from others) all of the British dependencies, and with the reach / firepower to rescue, at a moments notice, the 4-6 million Britons that live overseas (many in bad places)?

  6. How much will UKIP raise the MOD budget so we have a “standalone” force capable of protecting (without help from others) all of the British dependencies, and with the reach / firepower to rescue, at a moments notice, the 4-6 million Britons that live overseas (many in bad places)?

  7. Well, considering that by 2007 the EU will cost this country £100,000 per minute, UKIP thinks Britain will have a bit of financial flexibility once we leave it to spend on many neglected areas! And do not think that the EU is impressed with any notions of us pursuing and protecting our own foreign interests whether they are judged to be in Iraq or Afghanistan and especially with our remaining dependencies and the Commonwealth. Plans are advanced for there to be an EU Foreign Minister to replace arrangements in place currently by member states. And there have been EU missions in overseas countries for years that could easily become embassies overnight. I do truly worry about our future.

  8. Well, considering that by 2007 the EU will cost this country £100,000 per minute, UKIP thinks Britain will have a bit of financial flexibility once we leave it to spend on many neglected areas! And do not think that the EU is impressed with any notions of us pursuing and protecting our own foreign interests whether they are judged to be in Iraq or Afghanistan and especially with our remaining dependencies and the Commonwealth. Plans are advanced for there to be an EU Foreign Minister to replace arrangements in place currently by member states. And there have been EU missions in overseas countries for years that could easily become embassies overnight. I do truly worry about our future.

  9. Jens,
    You’re preaching to the converted here. Who’d want to be in a club where you had smashed in the face of almost every memeber in it, and knew how worthless they all were? Not much basis for a relationship of mutual respect is there?

  10. Jens,
    You’re preaching to the converted here. Who’d want to be in a club where you had smashed in the face of almost every memeber in it, and knew how worthless they all were? Not much basis for a relationship of mutual respect is there?

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